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MOSHIACH-----will solve everyones problems?

jewess27 Posted - 16 August 2000 15:14

LOOK EVERYONE! There is going to be a brighter future for us all.

God created the world in all perfectness, in all 'goodness' - do you think that he's actually going to leave it the way it is at the moment? NO!

Of course he's not. He's going to send the Messiah and free us all of this bondage of stress, sadness, pain, war, famine, greed, lust and just plain evil.

Look forward to the BRIGHTER FUTURE!

Punims Posted - 17 August 2000 14:33

Jewess, we've been told and been told all this again and again. For thousands of years the Jews have been waiting and waiting. How can we still believe that this "brighter future" is going to come?

We say we believe, but would anyone really believe that it can happen anytime, today, tomorrow, when it hasn’t happened for so long?

asdfg Posted - 18 August 2000 14:50

Jewess, we can’t deal with our problems by saying that moshiach will come. Even though we believe he could come we have to deal with the reality each day he doesn’t come. Just because he might come doesn’t solve any problems it just gives us hope.

MODERATOR Posted - 21 August 2000 15:55

Moshiach will not solve all our problems. In fact, if someone is not ready for moshiach he will have more problems when he comes.

Rav Shimon Schwab ZTL once wrote and article describing a Shabbos he spent with the Chofetz Chaim. He said that the Chofetz Chaim closed his eyes, and with great concentration announced, "You think that when Moshiach comes everyone will be happy? No! there will be those that will be running for cover! it will be Yom hadin (day of judgment). Are we worthy? Who will be worthy when Moshiach comes?"

The great Polish Rebbe, Rav Yaakov of Blendev ZTL once heard from his grandfather the Mouglinitzer ZTL that Moshiach may come soon. he got so scared that perhaps he is not worthy that he fell ill and could not recover for weeks.

"When moshiach comes, if someone has not yet done Teshuva, he will not be able to do Teshuva any more, and he will remain, c"v, with his sins" - Maharil, Laws of 10 Days of Repentance

It's true that when Moshiach comes it will be the "day that is always Shabbos." But it's also true that "He who prepares on Erev Shabbos will have what to eat on Shabbos."

Now it's erev shabbos.

MODERATOR Posted - 21 August 2000 16:04


Many people feel like you do about Moshaich's delay. This is largely due to the unfortunate, failed "Moshach awareness" that took place not long ago, where people all over the world were told Moshiach is coming any day, or even moshiach has arrived. Now they see that it was a mistake, and instead of attributing foolishness to those who declared Moshiach's imminent arrival, they take it out on the Ani Maamin itself.

A non-frum lady once came to Rav Yaakov Kaminetzky ZTL saying that she wanted to become frum, because she heard Moshiach is coming soon and she wants to be prepared.

Rav Yaakov ZTL told her that he can't say for sure, but doesn't see that Moshach is coming so soon. The lady went off, relieved and non-religious.

So Rav Yaakov's wife immediately asked to know why he gave up an opportunity to make this woman religious. "Did you have to tell her that?" she asked.

"Right now, this woman is not religious," said Rav Yaakov. "But at least she believes in one thing -- Moshiach. If she becomes religious because she thinks Moshiach is coming soon, and then he does not come, she will not only be non-religious, but even that one thing that she believes in - Moshach - even that one thing she will no longer believe."

Punims, nobody said Moshiach was "supposed to" come at any given time. there is no reason for disappointment. Some peoples' expectations were synthetically, unrealistically, raised, only to fall again, hard and painfully, when they saw they were wrong.

Don't be one of them. Don't blame Yiddishkeit on the mistakes of certain Yidden.

Punims Posted - 22 August 2000 4:52

Rabbi, you once told me that it doesn’t matter what your reason for becoming religious is as long as you do it. That when you do it, you'll learn to love it yourself. If that is the case, then why did the Chofetz Chaim not let the woman become religious?

MODERATOR Posted - 22 August 2000 19:38

Punims, I think you mean Rav Yaakov Kaminetzky ZTL, not the Chofetz Chaim.

Doing Mitzvos not for the right reasons is not the same as becoming religious under false pretenses. In the first, you want to do the Mitzvos just not for the best reason. In the second, your reason for wanting to do Mitzvos is a mistake. If so, as soon as you realize your mistake, you will have no reasons - good or bad - to be religious. In this case, the woman who wanted to become religious because she thought Moshiach is coming will just throw it all away when she sees she was wrong. Your religion cannot be based on a lie.

So here, if the woman had become religious under these pretenses and then realized her mistake and given it up, she would have given up even that one belief that she previously possessed (in moshiach), and she would have ended up worse off than she was before she became frum.

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