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Showing posts with label TEFILAH. Show all posts
Showing posts with label TEFILAH. Show all posts

2.06.2007

TEFILAH-----praying for teshuva?

Gush Katif Girl Posted - 19 September 2005 10:53


A little bit over a year ago my sister got engaged to a this Christian guy. My father was furious he almost left her for dead but my mother somehow calmed him down. I was happy they did not sit sheva for her because she is my sister one of my best friends, even though we fought a lot like all siblings do, I did not want to lose her. I cried every night for a month when I found out.

Now, well I am losing her my Jewish sister is becoming a stranger she has a cross hanging from the rear view mirror of her car she is not married to him yet and she is still living in the same house with him. Last time I saw her the only words she said to me were good-bye and shut up. I am losing my sister and there is nothing I can do about it........


MODERATOR Posted - 19 September 2005 11:15


My heart goes out to you, GTG. But there is something you can do about it. Your sister, for all practical purposes, has willingly delivered herself to death, but spiritual casualties, no matter how tragic they are, are reversible. There is always hope that your sister will one day return to Hashem. It will always be up to her, but you can pray to Hashem that she do Teshuva and resurrect herself.

And we can pray for people to do teshuva, even though it is dependant on Bechirah. There is a machlokes how such prayer works:

According to the Chazon Ish, Hashem may intervene and help someone to do Teshuva, and it is not a contradiction to the rule "hakol bidei shamayim chutz miyiras shamayim" because the Divine intervention was triggered by the Bechirah of a human being, that is, your prayers.

Others hold that the way this prayer works is not that it supplies leverage for the person to decide to do Teshuva, but rather it gives them easier Nisyonos. So in your sister's case, you should pray that one day her husband loses his temper when they’re arguing about money and calls her a "Cheap Jewish [expletive deleted]", which may open her eyes.

Pray that her marriage will be one of the 60% of marriages that end in divorce. Pray that she always remembers the good times she had with your family. Pray that maybe her children will one day seek out their Jewish roots, and bring their mother back with them. Pray that circumstances make it easier for her to return to Hashem so that her decision will be that much easier.

I can't even begin to imagine the pain that you and your family is going through - and that Kivyachol Hashem is going through as well. But you should never ever lose hope. No matter what your sister does, Teshuva is always a hope.

May Hashem have Rachmanus on her and let her see the terrible mistake she is making.

11.24.2006

TEFILAH-----why? 2

René Posted - 16 May 2001 13:56
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Do we have scriptures that specifically tell us this?

And since He is perfect, why does Abraham play that arguing game with him over how many righteous people must inhabit Sodom in order that it be saved?

And what good is prayer (I know this has been discussed before but I'm still confused). If everything that happens is Hashem's will what good is prayer?




MODERATOR Posted - 16 May 2001 18:30
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The characteristics of Hashem - that he is all-powerful, that He is perfect, etc. etc. - we know from a combination of Torah shebal peh, and tradition that was handed down from generation to generation.

Incidentally, the term "scriptures" is used almost exclusively by Christians. We simply say "Torah". The literal difference is that the phrase "scriptures" only includes part of the Torah, i.e. the written part. "Torah" includes the entire authoritative body of the Law.

The episode with Avraham, and all prayer in general, is made for the benefit of us, not that Hashem needs us to pray to give us something. Prayer brings us closer to Hashem, and gives us an awareness and understanding that everything that we get in this world is a direct gift from G-d - both vitally fundamental acquisitions on our part.

So Hashem says, "I will give you whatever you are destined to have ... provided you pray for it. By your asking me for all that you desire, you will create a relationship with me, where you will be aware of My presence in your life."

Our awareness of Hashem's presence in our lives is part of the Mitzvah of believing in Him.

A second element in prayer is the exercising of our own "muscles" of mercy. When we pray for someone, we awaken within ourselves our natural feelings of mercy and compassion that is in the soul of every Jew.

So when Avraham "fought" with Hashem for Sodom, he was actually developing his capacity for compassion and to fight for the well being of his fellow human beings. Hashem wanted to both test Avraham and to involve him in this "exercise" for the sake of Avrohom's personal development and growth.

Incidentally, the literal translation of the word "tefilah" does not mean to "pray" but rather to "be aggressive" or "assertive". It comes form the word "palel", which means "aggression." What Avrohom Avinu did by Sodom was really what tefilah was meant to be.

11.08.2006

WOMEN-----saying kaddish


See, I have always been opposed to that -- why shouldn't girls be able to say kaddish too in public (or according to some opinions at all)? It doesn't seem right



Why can’t we say Kadidsh without a Minyan?

Why can’t we say Kaddish outside of Davening?

Whatever "helps" about Kaddish is obviously not merely saying the words - but rather saying them in the exact way and manner, time and place, that the initiators of this custom (it is a Minhag, Kadish) understood according to their Kabbalistic understanding.

So we know that saying Kaddish outside of Davening, or without a Minyan doesn’t help. One of the things we know about Kaddish is that it is supposed to come from a man.

There is no way for us to understand on the surface how Kaddish even helps the deceased soul. Kaddish mentions nothing about death, souls, or deceased people. In fact, the halachah is that if there is no mourner to say the mourner's Kaddish in shul (after Aleinu) a non-mourner should say it, even if he has parents!

There is absolutely no reason why parents should object to their children saying Kaddish for someone (although if they do, and the Kaddish is not obligatory on the child, he should obey his parents' unreasonable demands). No damage can happen to someone if their children say Kaddish.

There are many, many, mistaken ideas about this tefilah. We do not understand why this particular tefilah said in this particular manner "works", but we trust those that created it. Part of the rules of Kaddish was that men must say it, not women. That rule, like all the rest of the rules of this Tefilah, was instituted by its originators.



So you are saying that it is okay for girls?



No. Kaddish is a minhag and the minhag is that women do not say Kaddish. If the originators of the minhag - and all the generations of Torah Jews - understood that it would be a good thing for women to say Kaddish, they would have instituted it that way.

7.31.2006

TEFILAH-----not accepted?


Why is that when ever I daven hard, God never answers my prayers?



The could be a number of reasons why Hashem does not give us what we want.

Maybe what you are asking for is not really good for you....

Or maybe what you are asking for is incompatible with Hashem’s plans for what He wants to happen in the world.

When either of these two happen, your prayers ARE answered, just not in the way you wanted.

There is no legitimate Tefilah that is not answered. In other words, let’s say you pray for an ailing patient to recover, but in Hashem’s plan, this person is going to die no matter what. But let’s say that there is another sick person who Hashem decided may live, but he would need prayers. Unfortunately, there aren’t enough prayers to help him recover, even though he could.

So Hashem takes the prayers for the person who will inevitably die, and uses them for the second person, who has a chance to live. The prayer is never ignored. It is used in the best way possible, even if the particular thing you want is for whatever reason not possible.

I heard in the name of the Chazon Ish that the unanswered prayers of parents who saw their children go “off the derech” for Haskala at the turn of the century will ultimately cause other Jews to do teshuva.

In other words, the almost miraculous Baal Teshuva movement of the 60’s and 70’s could have been a result of those prayers.

There are other times, though, when a person’s prayers are disqualified, either because the person himself is deemed unworthy that his prayers should be answered, or the prayer itself was done in a less than proper manner. One of the reasons we pray with a Minyan is because it increases the chances of an unworthy person’s prayers to be answered. By joining in a group offering prayers together, his unworthiness may be offset by the status of someone else in the Minyan.


MODERATOR you said that if you’re not worthy your prayers won't be answered. So if you’re not worthy u might as well not pray because your prayers aren't being answered anyway?



1) Davening brings us closer to Hashem even we are not answered.

2) Davening itself makes us more worthy to be answered.

3) You never know who is worthy of being answered and who is not.

4) No sincere prayer goes unanswered. When we say it goes unanswered, what we mean is, you won’t get what you want. But G-d will do something for someone because of your prayers.

You are correct, that there is a Halachah that if you are 100% that your prayers will not be answered, then your prayer is not even considered a prayer, such as when you daven in front of Tzoah, where the Gemora says your prayer will not be answered, therefore you do not fulfill your obligation to daven.

However, you cannot make such a determination on your own.



The following are listed in Chazal as ways to get your prayers answered:

1) Davening in Shul
2) Davening with a Minyan
3) Crying during Davening (sincerely of coures)
4) Not speaking Loshon Horah
5) Having Kavanah and paying attention to each word
6) Learning Torah; being a Talmid Chacham
7) Learning Torah through difficult times
8) Stregnthening yourself in your Davening even though it is difficult
9) Having mercy on people
10) Doing Chesed
11) Doing the Mitzvos and keeping all the Halchos (if we listen to Hashem He listens to us)



We're an observant couple which moved from Israel to Canada because of various reasons.
I have been davening every day for more than a year and I ask that my wife will find a job, and even though she is capable of finding a job, she doesn't get one even with Jewish observant employers who instead take somebody else.


And I am just start to think why should we keep kosher and shabbat if we are not answered? I believe it should be two-sided relationship.

Because Hashem doesn’t answer my prayers I plainly don't want to daven any more. I think I made enough efforts. If He wants me to continue davening, I'd resume when I get a positive response.



The problem is, tefilah doesn’t work the way you think, and neither do mitzvos.

Do you really believe that you do not have a "two sided relationship" with Hashem?
Who gave you your eyes, for example? Did you pay for them? Did you earn them? Who keeps them running smoothly day after day?

How much would you sell your eyes for? A million dollars? Ten million?

Of your arms, or your legs, or your heart.

Who provides you with the air you breathe? The food you eat?

Do you not think that Hashem, Who gives and gives and gives all of this to you with no benefit to Himself whatsoever does not deserve a "thank you" in the form of Tefilah?

The word "Boruch" means "thank you". It comes from the word "berech" meaning "knee." Literally, Boruch ata Hashem means "I bend my knee to you, Hashem". Or: Thank you, Hashem.

He gives you eyes and all he asks is that you do not look in certain places.

He gives you a home and all he asks is that you put on a mezuzah.

He gives you food and all he asks is that you make a brachah.

He gives you a week of life and all He asks is that you keep his shabbos.

Even if you do not get what you want out of Hashem, you still have so much that you want form Him that even if you spent your whole life praying it would still be absolutely nothing compared to what we all owe Him.

But you are right - your relationship with Hashem is, in a sense, one-way. But not the way you think.

Hashem gains NOTHING out of your Mitzvos. He does not ask anything of you for Himself. All your Mitzvos do is get you closer to perfection, so that when your physical life is over in this world, you can have infinite, never-ending pleasure beyond your imagining.

There is nothing in this for Hashem. He has everything already, and your prayers and your Mitzvos do not benefit him in any way at all. They are for your good, not his.

Your prayers and your Mitzvos do so much good for you, and zero benefit for Hashem, your relationship is indeed one way - Hashem gives and gets nothing in return.

The reason he gives is because He loves you.

And as such, whatever he does is for your benefit. If He thought that now is the time for your wife to get a job He would give it to her. I know it is sometimes hard to understand why Hashem does not give us what we believe we need but we have to realize that He has no other motive other than our benefit, and so whatever he does is for the best. Only He, in His infinite wisdom, knows what best is.

It’s like the baby sitting on the floor in his back yard and suddenly finds a new toy - a broken shard of green glass from a beer bottle. He picks up the glass and starts playing with it. Suddenly he realizes that when he looks through the glass, the whole world turns green! He's so excited and amused by his new discovery - he can turn the world green at will - that he forgets everything else in the world and turns his attention to his new treasure.

After a while, his mother comes out and sees her baby sitting there holding this broken shard of glass right at his eye! She gasps, and, heart racing, quickly runs over to the baby slapping that sharp shard out of his hand, and firmly tells him "Never, never! Pick up garbage!” Boruch Hashem, she thinks to herself, that she got there before her baby hurt himself.

Meanwhile, the baby is angry at the mother. He can’t understand why his mother committed an act of such base cruelty!

Here he was, sitting and minding his own business, having fun - with a toy that he found himself! He didn’t even have to trouble his mother to get it for him! - And she comes out and for no reason at all, takes it away from him! And in such an abrupt manner!"

Hashem is like the mother, and we are like the baby. We have only finite knowledge of what’s good for us - spiritually and physically. Sometimes Hashem will take away something we think is totally beneficial for us, and harmless, but He knows better. And sometimes, it so hard for us to understand why Hashem is not giving us what we want, or why He takes away something so dear and precious to us. But we have to be high and smart and wise and realize that we are under Hashem's hashgacha and that He does for us only what is best for us.

There’s another thing, too. All tefilos are answered. Maybe not in the way you expect, but they are.

Let’s say you daven for your wife to get a job now. But let's say it’s just not in the cards for her to get that job. Meaning, it’s not best for her now. The tefilos you sent to heaven are not ignored; they’re "stored." So one day, sometime in the future, when you need something, and maybe you don’t even know what you need, or maybe you are about to make the wrong decision for yourself, Hashem remembers that once upon a time you prayed for something that you didn’t get. So He takes those tefilos out of His treasure chest of tefilos and "answers" them, then and there. And they are answered in a way that will make us so happy that Hashem stored up those tefilos and didn’t "use them up" when we asked Him to.

So don’t worry. Hashem will answer your prayers - He always does. And if He is not answering them now, in the way you want, that is because He is saving those prayers for something much more important to you.

So keep sending those prayers upstairs! They’re all, each and every one of them, earning interest until they can pay maximum benefits.

TEFILAH-----advice for kavana


I find it so hard to concentrate on my davening. And then once I close the siddur I realize only after who I was just speaking to and what I was saying. How can I instill inside of me what it means to talk to HaShem, and how much of an effect my words can have?


When you start Shemonah Esrei, before you say the first word, imagine that you are actually standing in Shamayim in front of Hashem on the Kisei HaKavod. That you have been granted a chance to ask Hashem personally for everything you, your parents, and the whole world needs.
That Hashem asked specifically to hear from you what those needs are.

And now, you are asking Hashem for them. You are in front of the King, Who is in charge of life and death and everything else in this world, you, "bas yisroel", talking one on one to Hashem.

Pause for 30 seconds to do this right before you bend your knees for the first "Boruch". Imagine that during those 30 seconds you're standing right at the door to Hashem's Throne Room, ready to enter. You're taking a deep breath, reviewing what you want to say. You're about to open the door, your hand is on the knob, and you say to yourself, "Bas Yisroel," you're about to go into the King and ask Him for everything. Don't blow it.

Then, when you're ready to finally open the door and face the King, bow for the first Boruch.

And keep this is mind throughout your Shemonah Esrei.

7.20.2006

TEFILAH-----why?

Why do we have to daven 3 times a day?? I mean I'm sure g-d knows what were thinking. why does he need us to say it?? I mean he knows everything. right????


You are 100% correct. The reason why we daven is not to let Hashem know what we want. He knows that already.

Rather, Hashem arranged the world such that there are things that we want that He is ready and willing to give us, but only if we ask for them. By davening, we fulfill our part of obtaining what Hashem has in store for us. If we don't daven, even if Hashem wants to give us what we want, could be He won't, because we didn't ask for it.

The reason He set things up like this is for our sake. By always asking for what He gives us, we thereby become more in tune with the fact that everything is under His control. Our purpose in this world is to connect to Hashem (please see the Basic Judaism forum), and part of connecting to Hashem is being mindful that He is the only power in the world and that everything that happens here is only His will. Davening helps us reach that level.

Ok, well then why can’t we have certain times a day to just think of what we are asking of g-d? why does everyone say to be careful with every word? I mean g-d knows what were saying even if we mumble it.


We do. At a certain point in the Brachah "Shema Koleinu" and at the end of "Elokai Netzor" in Shemona Esrei, we may insert any prayer we want for whatever we want. The Siddurim usually have an asterisk in Shema Koleinu at this point, with an option to say a certain prayer for sick people which would be printed on the bottom of the page.

However, the compilers of the Siddur were possessors of Ruach HaKodesh, and very, very holy men, and they knew precisely the best way to get Hashem to answer our prayers in the most beneficial manner.

On Rosh Hashanah we blow the Shofar to invoke the memory of the Akeidah, for instance. But the Akeidah is not the only invocation possible, and the Anshei kneses Hagedolah put together the best possible combinations of words and pesukim to maximize our chances of getting our tefilos accepted.

Prayer is not just "asking" Hashem for things. it is connecting to Him in a way that His sustenance flows into this world in precisely the way that we desire. You can only make this happen because you have a soul that is able to connect to Hashem. You pray with your soul, not just with your words. And unfortunately we don't know too much about how our soul communicates with Hashem -- but Chazal did. So they told us the best way to do it.

A lot of Davening also has to do with who you are. Each Shevet (tribe) has another "pathway" though which they are capable of drawing down Hashem's sustenance to the world. One tribe cannot use the conduit of the other; it just won't work.

There's a lot more to Davening than just letting Hashem know what you want. Talking to Hashem is not the same as talking to a human being. It is a spiritual process that involves connecting your soul to the Source of sustenance of the world. Chazal taught us how to do that.


How come if we skip tal umatar livracha in shimona esrei we have to say it over and things like that? I mean g-d knows we meant to day it and we think that we want rain so what’s the difference?


We pray not only for the purpose of communicating with Hashem. Tefilah also has an effect on us. It sanctifies us by making us closer to Hashem.

Humans are comprised of both physical and spirtual components, and it's not so easy to sanctify both of them at the same time, since what affects a physical thing won't affect a spiritual thing and vice versa.

So Hashem created a system of Mitzvos that involves (1) thought - Kavanah, (2) action - Maaseh, and (3) speech - Dibur.

The thought components of our Mitzvos affect the Neshoma, since both thought and Neshoma are spiritual. Actions affect the body - they are both physical, and speech affects your Ruach (spirit) since they are both in between.

Tefilah was designed to comprise both thought (Kavanah), speech (the words) and action (bowing and standing etc.). Each one of these components functions on its own and impacts on a different part of us.

And each one, in order to properly affect us, has to be done according to the instructions of Hilchos Tefilah.

So yes, it's true that Hashem knows what we had intended to say. But if we don't say it, the "speech" component of our Tefilah is still deficient, even though the "kavanah" part may still be intact. And since the "speech" part is necessary to affect a different part of us, we have to do it over.